love this. Especially that blue and its smudges.

Thanks - I can't really say why but I like Chibi Paint smears more than Photoshop smears.

To tell the truth I'd never actually used photoshops smear tool at all. These applets were the first time I'd tried them out. Which is probably why I use them so much now. In any case I really envy your color choices.

Thanks, re: the color. Chibi's smears handle more like paint than Adobe's -- Photoshop just sort of averages the difference between smeared and unsmeared and then makes you really work to drag the "average" around the screen. The end result looks exactly like what you did - drag some average around the screen. (Maybe it's just the versions of Photoshop I use that come bundled with a scanner or printer, but I doubt it.)

I hadn't seen this one before. Warped wires piercing flimsy goop of some sort... Nice. The difference in "medium" really makes it.

delicious looking sun

eww stinky.

Is the world on fire? haha, that's great. Hello to you too.

http://computersclub.tumblr.com/post/2190686439/nicolas-sassoon-party-iii

hahahah love it! connected minds ;)

Hello!

Hi, I like this and your accompanying poem. It's always neat to see how people use interfaces, especially since I use windows.

It's funny... I usually use Windows too. My new (Windows) computer crashed, have to service it, using another computer for now. The polarity between Mac and Windows is very strange. This is just a small ode to a temporary personal setting. Recently in my life it's been: @work, use a Mac, @home, use Windows. I have this idea in the back of my head, "professional things" = Mac, personal/art (but no less important) = Windows. Different frames for different minds sets. It's become more ambiguous recently.

I know what you mean when you talk about different mindsets, although my profession still uses windows. Sorry to hear about your computer though :(. I have to admit to using mac's sparingly so I'm interested in seeing that polarity and ambiguity, as you put it.

So nice to see. Also, hello to you :)

Hi Robert, nice to meet you!
This is my drawing comfort food, so to speak. My hand draws this when given a pen.

Thanks for sharin' it :D. I'm really enjoying the graphic feel, like the spatter and outlines. Look forward to seeing your other meals!

Great - I especially like the zipatone modeling in the face and the bone marrow background.

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stress can find strange ways of surfacing, I am sorry to have been rude and look forward to your continued contributions here

I think you've made a strange leap when you say a practical drawing does not really fit the spirit of the drawing society.

So I'm going to say publicly that I just plain disagree with you on pretty much all of what you said.

Well, that begs the question,

What is a practical drawing? What is an impractical drawing?

I'm not sure practicality is at the root of my questioning.

If the drawing society is, at its limits, how its briefly described as "a collective of friends who draw on the internet together using online tools" than this certainly fits.

But a spirit of experimentation with digital aesthetics, an investigation into what formal qualities are inherent to this particular digital medium, has always in my mind been implied very strongly.

Perhaps that was just the tone set at the onset of CCDS and now the forum is opening up to a much larger territory. If so, thats fine. I'm not trying to suggest Elanors participation is of no value but rather positions itself in a very different territory than what has previously been the subject of CCDS.

I'm publicly questioning that boundary as a means of understanding it for myself, and also to get opinions such as yours, which are oppositional to mine.

Alright, so practicality wasn't your point.

You seem to think that by looking at the drawings of members you would get a sense of the 'spirit' of ds, but what you're really getting are the 'spirits' of those members. But then you're taking that 'spirit' and applying it as a 'criticism' here. But it isn't the spirit of DS. It's just a style adopted by its members.

So you are welcome to your criticism, it's just a poor one. While you consider this drawing 'not risky', I consider it quite risky. I'm sure she can see the 'styles' of drawing that go on here. Her debut was a memorable, fresh, and RISKY detour from that style. Which your initial comment should evidence enough since you saw fit to say what you did. And her use of the media is as valid as any other. I would dare you to try and back that up as an assertion. In fact I would dare you to back up any of the criticisms you made.

Behind them all I got the sense that you just didn't like her drawing, because if you took a moment to try and argue against your own criticisms you'd be able to overcome them all very quickly. It's the lack of self-reflection I saw in your comment that makes me think you had other reasons for writing it. Nevertheless, I accept your opinion and I'd guess that Eleanor would too. But I certainly don't agree with it. At any level.

I'm not sure what about that was supposed to be "friendly". Your comment makes me think of people who start a sentence with, "No offense BUT..."

For the record, Robert is correct - I don't mind you (or anyone else) having an opinion. I would not volunteer a picture if I did.

However I don't appreciate your assumptions.
"Autopilot"? What do you know of me or my experience with this toolkit?
"The spirit of the drawing society"? I was asked to join because my drawings are different from those here.

No, this was not a "challenging" picture, nor was it meant to be. It was me having a small play with the tools, as much as some of the content here is.

hello world

deviantart lol

Welcome Eleanor! I look forward to seeing more of your drawings :)

http://gyazo.com/6c33ccb1d382318a6e9aa152bc1b4b11.png

Hi everyone. I have a favor to ask.

I'm hoping that I might ask you to remove your comment if it's not directly related to the image or its discussion here. I'm going to leave that determination up to y'all for tonight and tomorrow.

Normally I'd be absolutely fine with small comments and off topic discussion because that's what this space is for, really. Discussion of any type. However, since this thread has taken on a very specific topic and picture I'd like for the comments to reflect that. Additionally, I see there being opportunity for gamesmanship and social prodding as it stands, which I want to discourage.

The choice is up to you, of course, and no matter what you choose there will be no punishment. I'm just asking for a favor.

Thanks.

Hey sorry I'm not trying to bully you but just have an open conversation about digital aesthetics and CCDS in particular. I understand I might have seemed to be aggressive at first but I'm critical because I'm interested. Having a debate in a text based environment is tricky because people read your language in whatever tone of voice they care to. I did infact intend it as friendly criticism, I'm not looking to attack you for the sport of it.

Its a worse offense to be ignored if you ask me. I think Tom Moodys drawings are fairly against the grain as well , just for the record.

also @Ilia Ovechkin , I don't mind if you don't agree with me, but that kind of a response is really juvenile. If you want to disagree with me at least give it a try.

We all have different opinions and there's room for all of them. There ought to be space for disagreement in CCDS, its healthy for the whole ecosystem. I'm interested to see more of your work Elanor , I did in fact mean it as friendly criticism and questioning.

It would be really boring if we all agreed on everything.

sterling

i believe i did give it a try. juvenile or not, don't take it personally.

i do think this drawing is really nice and i welcome it here.

I just want this to continue to be a place for an intellectual investigation into digital drawing, "cool story bro" doesn't really offer much food for thought, I don't take it personally but I'm asking to have a conversation not an argument. I wasn't looking to pick a fight and in hindsight I can see why it could seem that way. ☮ ♥ ☯

It's odd that this drawing touched off this discussion. Possibly because it looks like the work of a professional cartoonist and there isn't much of that here. Many deviantart artists are aspiring professionals - it's definitely a different mindset than "exploring computers." One of my "illustration" type works here provoked a spam attack that went on and on until I pulled it, but there may have been other factors at work there than just hating cartoon crabs.

Don't worry about it guys (I doubt you were). I think we can move on here.

It's funny, when I was talking to Krist, looking at this place, I mentioned I was quite taken by Tom Moody's stuff especially.
I guess it only goes to show about strokes and folks. ;)

<3

Sterling, it's bad netiquette to make negative comments and then erase them after people have taken time and trouble to respond.

<3

My glasses are so strong that they regularly create chromatic aberrations so whenever I see small drop shadows I have to move my head around like an owl to see if they're real or not. I'm glad yours are real.

wonderful

: )

Yeah! I think the shadow makes it more interesting, is like an embossing on a LCD, the texture of the water is a must!

This is how all internet art exhibitions will look in the future - one texture-mapped sculpture stand, leaning slightly, with matching laptop.

neat spooky :)

Thanks Robert!

cute and silly!!!!!!!! I LOVE SILLY!
JE N'AIME PAS LE FOIS GRAS

if that were a door
and this were a dare
i would walk through

Like an image from an old Macintosh hypercard game.

Good one. Adding to the mystical aura is the way the stairs push back into space even though the horizontals are in sharp focus and pop forward on the screen.

yesss. i'm all for mystical auras! ... and I will continue to explore depth on my future drawings ... ::)

intra depth

Nice one!

:)

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This is growing on me. I had to look at it more to realize how out-of-kilter everything is. I especially like the transparency of the black and white.

thanks tom! it's supposed to represent two scenes in one :)

sexy digital indian brains

nice symbiosis

the texture is great

Thanks - halfway through it started turning into 1950s medical illustration and I just went with it.

Nice one Patrick !

thanks :)

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feels fresh

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